Or this...
If you ask my husband he would say, "why should the lid go down just because that is how females go? Why isn't the right way with the seat up?"
To that I say, if you touch the seat to put it up use your dirty hands to put it back down. Don't make us lovely females touch the seat to put it back down!Well, I have been living in a house with TWO men these past couple months (Matt Robinett has been temporarily staying with us). So I have touched double the toilet seats I normally do. What is the big deal with guys leaving the seat up? Am I wrong? I would love to get some feedback on this. Travis, you can even argue your part if you like! :)
One interesting thing, I found a solution to this problem. Some guy invented a hydrolic lift toilet seat that is on a timer. It is called the Considerate Seat. I might have to look into getting one of those!
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This is not right. I'm not sure what I am going to do about it yet.
Kelly I agree with you 150%. Living in a house with 3 men i can assure i have had plenty of "discussions" about this subject. If men were graceful while doing their thing, there would never be a problem (sitting down works at my house)I would look into the considerate seat that would solve everything. LOL....
I so agree, Kelly! Although, I must admit my husband NEVER leaves it up...BUT he does forget to flush first thing in the morning...he showers so doesn't want to flush until afterward but then forgets! Each morning I open the lid to a pee inside...YUCK!!!
Kelly, you and Travis crack me up, every home has these conversations, but most people do not take a public vote, but I am with you.....seat should go down, and even the lid should be down...germs....ewwwwww
I love your site btw,
Billie jo
Nope, don't have this problem. Thank heavens b/c I'm a bit of a germaphobe! I have a VERY considerate hubby over here who totally agrees with my logic that 'we ALL have to lift and lower the lid if it's just completely down all the time'. Oh and it's a fact that an open toilet is just a giant target for ANYTHING that falls in the bathroom to land in...EWWWWW! My other point is that if you have small children, unless the men remembers to close the door EACH TIME he goes, there is a good chance the babes will touch that nasty, disgusting, dirty toilet bowl rim or play in the water/place items into the water. It will happen, just wait...then you'll really have a valid argument for lids down! ;) GOOD LUCK!
I appear to be outnumbered by a bunch of hormonal, stressed out chicks. I'm calling in reinforcements.
here comes the cavalry!
toilet seats are meant to be put UP by males and DOWN by females. that way there is an equally shared and mutually submissive balance in the family.
so, travis up, kelly down. easy.
It was also suggested by a brilliant person that I should just comply and leave the toilet seat down....always. ;)
Oh yeah. Thanks, Phil.
To the best of my knowledge, the toilet seat definitely belongs up. Of course, I was open that I could be wrong because my wife thinks I am. So I asked our four boys what they thought and without exception they all said it goes up. With a five to one vote in our house, it seems like a fairly settled issue (ducking and running for cover back to Trav's blog).
We men will be most happy to return the toilet seat to the women's preferred position the minute women start returning the driver's seat in the car to a position that will accommodate a male body. I have almost broken my back trying to twist and squeeze myself behind the wheel of the car after my wife has driven the vehicle and shoved the seat completely forward so far that there is not room for a human behind the wheel.
If you would like, we could just pee with the seat down and leave our little droplets left for you to clean up. Which would you prefer to touch?
I agree with the earlier post. If men put it up, then women should put it down. Why can’t the ladies just leave it up so we can just prance in and “let it go?” Ladies, think about it this way: If we leave it up, that eliminates nasty dust particles, which float around and soaking up all the germs in the bathroom, from settling on where you’ll be sitting. It’s genius! It’s called dust protection.
I call all men to protect their wives from sitting on nasty dust particles…keep the lid up! HEHE
On a humorous note, I know a male that lost this battle and began to sit down instead of lifting the seat. Everywhere he goes he sits down. Men, can we still feel macho like this?! I don’t think so!
Sorry Kelly!
Well, I'll tell you Trav, if you want to be able to be a little romantic with your wife ever again, you're going to have to learn to put the seat down. Sorry man, that's just the way it works.
Besides . . . you can use the sink instead.
are womern just plain lazy? it takes no more of an effort to let a seat down than it takes to lift one up. next thing you know you womern are gonna want us to open doors for you. could somebody please call the "Wambulance"...
In the heat of Arizona it takes extra energy to put the seat up and then down again. Trav... my man ... take care of your family like the Word says! Buy Kelly some of that hand sanitizer for when she has to put the seat down.
Love you guys!!!
Mike
Hmmm, one of the ancient problems of mankind.
I agree the toilet seat should be left down.
Then you can practice your aim. :)
According to the women of the family it's better to leave it up and have them put it down than leave the seat down and have them sit down on a wet seat due to the sloppy aim of the men folk.
By the way, make sure the toilet paper comes out from underneath, not over the top. Do it right.
The MAN's way.
Roughridercog
Hey bud -
I agree - it's just as easy for her to pick it up, as it is for you to put back down.
But; Don't you know if momma's not happy, ain't no-boddy gonna be happy!
There's some things that are worth fighting over, and some that ain't!
Put the seat down.
Well in order to get a proper resolution to this problem we will need to study who indeed established the seat position to begin with.
as we look back to Genesis we will truly find a powerful revelation and that revelation is that Man FIRST used the bathroom therefore since the first Tinkle was by a man the word of God has declared by this action that the seat must remain up and the woman must properly shut it at her descretion.
If any women should choose not to put the seat down then simply tinkle standing up like the rest of us!
I'm with Gary on this one...and while we're at it how about the ladies learn how to put tools back where they belong...then we'll talk about the toilet seat.
I hope this doesn't offend anyone but I thought this would fit right in with this conversation.
http://www.careerbuilder.com/monk-e-mail/Default.aspx?mid=8084984&cbRecursionCnt=1&cbsid=4a03474cff0947bb9db6547cae6e91aa-208964309-R1-4
love the vid, toby...i cracked up!
It wouldn't be right or loving for a man to put the seat down. I have a 10 year old who thinks seat is supposed to stay down when he tinkles; believe me, it's not funny to get in the bathroom after him. Kelly, Travis is leaving it that way out of love.
Besides, have you noticed how men tell each other to "keep it up" instead of good byes? Well, now you know what is the thing that's supposed to be up. It's the secret code, y'know.
What about just leaving the seat down and aiming through the hole... seat only gets wet 45% of the time... how's that for compromise?
One of my "newly married" friends came over the other day for a couple of hours.
He came out of the bathroom, and said, "Man, I can tell you aren't married..."
I asked, "How's that?"
He said, "you leave the toilet seat up...someday you'll learn."
Oh well...
DOWN BOYS! I go away for one night out with the girls and look what happens.
For all of you single men - keep the seat up. You don't have a wife who has gone through horrendous childbirth to give you children, ho keeps your underwear clean, and who promised to love you forever.
Married men - if you loved your wives enough to consider what they have to go through every time they touch the nasty toilet seats, or sit on a cold nasty rim in the middle of a dark night-time bathroom trip, you would put the lid down. You are already touching it to begin with! Why not take a minute to touch it when you are finished? Do you think you are leaving it up for your next potty break? Do you not realize someone else will be coming along - maybe even your 2 year old daughter (TRAVIS) - and using it next? Why make us touch it when you already have? Where is the chivalry? Aren't you supposed to treat us like precious jewels? Taking care of us, looking out for us, and thinking of us before yourselves? I don't ask for much. I don't expect my car door to be opened or flowers and chocolate. I just want to not have to touch a toilet lid every time I go. Show some love and close the lids.
How about this - you clean the toilet and you can leave it in whatever position you want. That sounds like a really fair compromise to me!
I'm sorry, Travis. There are some wars a man can never win. This is one of them. Concede now or there will be Sheol to pay in some other seemingly utterly unrelated part of your married life.
Signed,
The Confederate States of America
Thank you so much Dr. Melton. Travis is a huge fan of yours and considers you to be a great writer. I agree. I think your response was quite eloquent. You just scored MAJOR points in my book.
Now if only the other macho men who have responded on here would see how chivalrous this act would be maybe they would score points with women all over the world... but most importantly right in their own homes.
Bottom line - putting the toilet lid down is considered a romantic gesture to a woman. Be a hero to your wives and score major points with them by shutting the lids.
seats down--toilet tissue over the top--what more could a woman ask for?
Kelly, explain this: you change doodie diapers but you are worried about touching a toilet seat. If the seat is up, it isn't going to be dirty anyway!
pj- excellent point!
2 toilets, both with seats...one up and one down ;>)~ ...
here's the perfect solution! with one of these, we can both have our way.
http://static.flickr.com/37/97711030_57bd666589_m.jpg
This thread could easily weave its way into the next buweiser Man Laws commercial.
I don't see the problem. We move it up, you move it down, we move it up. To leave it up all the time is a hassle for you. To leave it down is a hassle for us. So why not just live and let live - OR get two toilets?
My wife went out with several of her girlfriends recently, and it was revealed during conversation that 100% of the husbands involved with these lovely ladies actually went in the backyard at some point or another. That would certainly solved the up/down issue...
Man, I can't believe this discussion is issuing from my family. For me and my generation, bathrooms are sort of like what the world says about Las Vegas: whatever happens there stays there.
This whole thread is TMI for a papaw like me, but since I refuse to have an Information Age Bypass here's some information from a Grandparent.
The solution to your problem has two possibilities, both of which have their drawbacks: His'n'Hers--http://www.riversdell.com/pughhouse/gallery/pugh_outhouse_interior.jpg
Bathroom a la Europa-- http://danrenzi.typepad.com/stuff/images/bidet.jpg
For those who need further edification on the latter check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bidet
Yours truly,
Papaw
For anyone who needs to lift a dirty toilet seat, use the tried and true edge-of-the-sole-of-your-shoe-while standing-on-one-foot technique. Works for me.
There are 3 bathrooms in our house. There are 3 women in the house. As a compromise, I will be glad to offer the downstairs "powder" room (already feminized room) as the non-standing room. Anything beyond that is a crime against huMANity.
Let me also note that the only pre-nups we have is that you are never permitted to decorate in florals. You have honored me in that. Thankfully, I don't go to bed under some tinkerbell looking night-night. I am not about to start acting like a fairy in my own "MASTER" bathroom.
I have made compromises in the past. Though, you did not pressure me to do so, for the good of the family, I did sell my '63 cadillac fleetwood and my motorcycle. But, now things are getting personal.
Well, I think I was on the her side, until she pulled out the if you Loved me crap, then it all went Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah.
As a male, I fell your pain, butI reckon I am too Chivalrous to agree with you. I have put my seat down since I was seven years old. I had a paw- paw that when he discovered the seat up, called me in their and made me give him 50, That wasput the seat up and down 50 times. You better put the seat up when you pee'd too, because one mis squirt you had to clean the whole bathroom. To this day I put my seat down, and then take some tp, and clean around, even in public restrooms.
Now I think it is hypocritical for a woman to get on her husband for forgetting to put the seat down, why? Well a woman can give you all that talk about germs, but the real reason your wife, is complaining, is because either she has forgot or she knows she will forget to check, and fall her butt into the toilet. So We have women getting upset because there husband forget, because they know they are going to forget. So why should someone complain about someone forgetting when they forget about it too.
Now to the most detrimental part of this convo. The If you loved me your... Now I am sure that Travis does alot more for you,if you took all the things he did for you, and looked at this one flaw, than you would realize that he loves you so very veyr much, than why say it, it's ridiculous, my wife tried it once, I had a long list that she heard, and she doesn't say it anymore. Forgetting to put the toilet seat down, has nothing to do with love it has to do with two parties who are forgetting about the same thing (aka the toilet seat.) and trying to pass the buck between the two.
Travis, don;t worry I think every husband has that list of things there wife wants to change about them. I wouldn;t change a thing about my wife, but she is set on making sure I breathe out of my mouth and not out of nose, and making sure I driver, a perfect dead center of the lane on the road. So I reckon we'll never win, but then again MArriage is not about winning, If It was men would have always slept on the couch, and never entered the bedroom.
I am a man. I grew up riding motorcycles, running heavy equipment, lifting weights, picking on my little sister, hunting fishing, camping hiking, shooting, building and all the guy stuff...and I refuse to wear sandals and taking my shoes off when I come into the house. But, when it comes to putting the seat down I very seldom forget. I touch it to lift it up and I tough it to put it down and then I wash my hands.
I think you should get to have your toys, but you really ought to put the seat down. And this business of designated bathrooms with three girls in the house is nuts.
You put yourself a bathroom out in the garage or shop where you can leave the seat up and call it good.
jeff, are you smoking crack?
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